Johnny Geib

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The Cost of things.......

Posted by Johnny Geib on December 27, 2014 at 2:55 AM


Well, I have learned a lot during the last few months as I attempted to launch a "Videos For Sale" site to generate some revenue for upgrades to my video equipment for better quality videos. What I discovered is that once you offer so much for free it becomes expected and very difficult to get people to pay for what they have been receiving for free for so long.


Patreon and Pivotshare were HUGE failures for me and even when I posted a Youtube video explaining my motives and desires to do this all full time, the accusations of being a sell-out and money hungry were quite surprising. No matter where I put these 4 new videos or how much I advertised them, no supporters to Patreon and no sales on Pivotshare. Needless to say I was disappointed as well as surprised and can only assume that I lack a certain quality in what I do to make a living at it. Even those that were positive and supportive about my endeavor did not purchase or sign up as a supporter and that, to me, was very telling.


So I pulled everything down and the videos I tried to sell are now getting dozens of views and positive comments on Youtube. Go figure. So my backup plan is to at least monetize these videos through Youtube and try to put that small amount towards improvements.


And the part of me that wants to continue helping where I can and offering assistance to those that need it, is only disappointed because I can still only do this part time and not assist more people that really want help.

 


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10 Comments

Reply Andy Arthur
2:56 PM on January 1, 2015 
Hey Johnny I missed these somehow I would gladly pay for your services and have in the past. You and David both. You are to my knowledge the most selfless person I have met in this business I am sorry I missed that. Send me a link I would be glad to purchase
Reply TheRocker
12:39 AM on March 22, 2015 
I did not receive an email about them,,, maybe somehow most of the other members didn't receive an email as well ?
Buddy when I get back on my feet, you will know !!!
I'm shocked as well you saw little to no return on your vested knowledge,,,
Do NOT give up and keep the faith,,, Feel free to run your next venture by me personally,,, I'm a good one for feedback, lol,,
Thank you for all you do !!
Reply Ben01930
5:22 PM on March 31, 2015 
Johnny,
I would expect (and encourage) anyone who has some level of compassion to use the "Donate" button on your page as I did (and will) if they truly rely on your knowledge, and respect your hard work. Even if it's just a little. My first contribution wasn't much, but it's at the very least a gesture to show appreciation. I've taught guitar to beginners before so I can relate to the commitment and time it takes to teach and share your passion. Keep up the awesomeness!!
Reply Monroe Drane
2:46 PM on April 10, 2015 
Yes I recently found your material on YouTube and if I had Known from the very first day I purchased Studio One I would of been subscribed to your page and services. You are truly knowledgeable on audio engineer, reminds me of my college instructor/mentor! I got one will most definitely be hitting the donation button to help you continue to do what you do best, Keep it up!
Reply Blue Monster 65
8:09 PM on May 31, 2015 
Donation sent. I visited your site for the first time last week and found the one tip/trick I've been scratching my head over for months. I'm sure to find more as I dig through here. Thank you very much!
Reply Tim Rickard
8:18 PM on July 31, 2015 
Atm I'm probably as poor as a person can get, and I donated a little. Come on peeps. This takes time, effort, knowledge. Just those 3 things usually = a payday of some kind or another. Lets keep this rolling.
Reply Ron
4:43 PM on March 10, 2016 
Given the quality of what you are producing and your ability to teach it, I would gladly subscribe to a channel by fee. My suggestion is to limit the number of free videos, and have the rest viewable by subscription. Make it affordable so if a person doesn't find what they need, they're not upset, but at the same time, it allows you to keep producing them and retaining your followers because it's affordable. For example, have a subscription of $10/month that will allow someone to view all videos. The price is cheap, even for those who don't want to pay anything.
Reply Johnny Geib
10:05 PM on March 11, 2016 
Ron says...
Given the quality of what you are producing and your ability to teach it, I would gladly subscribe to a channel by fee. My suggestion is to limit the number of free videos, and have the rest viewable by subscription. Make it affordable so if a person doesn't find what they need, they're not upset, but at the same time, it allows you to keep producing them and retaining your followers because it's affordable. For example, have a subscription of $10/month that will allow someone to view all videos. The price is cheap, even for those who don't want to pay anything.

Well I have tried selling videos for as low as $1.99 and never get any takers. And sadly I may be looking at closing down next year cause donations come in maybe once a month. I have had a donation (Support this channel) on my youtube for quite some time now and not 1 donation, no matter how many people I tell....lol. So I feel that while my content is extremely useful and decent quality it's still not where it needs to be for someone to pay for it yet, based on the response in donations.
Reply Martin Weeks
10:09 PM on August 13, 2016 
Wow! Thank you for your candor Johnny. Actually we (Linda & Myself) do understand.
For ourselves I can tell you flat out...we're too Frigging broke to pay for a lot of things. We eat at home, and make our own food, don't do the instant stuff in a microwave...we actually cook! I'm still using an older laptop with very little power for more upscale production. Don't have a video camera, and so on. So it's not like if you don't give away we would be mad...we know it's hard to make a living in anything having to do with music. It's that weird combination of finding the right people to work with, catching the right person at the right time in the right state of mind. LOT'S AND LOTS OF HARD WORK, rewrites, remixes. Editing, proofreading, and of course (yuck!) MARKETING AND SALES STUFF. (yeah yuck!)
But both Linda & myself both together and prior to our meeting up have always sought out quality over easy. Personally I'd rather make a handful of really great songs, then crank out "Disney Country Pop" all day and night.
Personally I don't put much stock in the idea that if I have 4 zillion views on YouTube that it will make me an instant millionaire. Why? Because they are viewing, not buying. And buying is what pays the bills.
Ergo, when we can in fact stretch the budget a bit more we will most likely come straight to you for those things. Because you've already demonstrated one on one to us that you will when possible make that extra effort. And to us that is worth it's weight in Gold. But for the time being we must continue to use the old under powered laptop, and all that. But we find ways to make it work. Nothing to do with the prevailing "Millenia Attitude of Entitlement." People that bitch about having to occasionally pay for something are not worth even bothering with. But that is an entirely different thing from simply not having the spare $$ in the bank to go out on an occasional limb.
You are our first go to when things improve for us...because you've demonstrated quality and care.

Peace Brother.

Marty Weeks & Linda Keser
Reply Jason A. Brooks
9:58 AM on September 9, 2016 
Hi Johnny, Because I'm so far behind on LIFE BEFORE THE RUINS {I think I discussed the song a little bit with you some time ago} relative to its best use {campaign anthem} if I could afford your services required to take what I have already finished and make it into a video I'd do so in a minute. JB